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都是「袋住先」惹的禍

 

湯文亮博士

紀惠集團行政總裁
2015年2月22日

  很多人都不會明白,點解會有人去財務公司借二按,什至會借錢買樓,難道他們不知道財務公司利息分分鐘可以是正常利息十倍或以上,現在我們關注的美國加息,講來講去都只是加1至2%,那些評論員已經將美國加息說成為樓市末日,但市民向財務公司借錢,付幾十個%利息,他們又認為很健康,老實說,我真的不明白,所以,我與主流的意見不同,不過,我人緣好,他們雖然評撃我的「爆煲論」,但大多數會說我出發點是善意的,但無論如何他們怎樣說,我依然堅持樓市在三至六個月見頂,之後爆煲,甚至六個月後中原指數低於現在,雖然冇人應戰,但傳媒早已確認這是一場博奕,不時會報導8月14日的中原指數是否會低於2月13日,友人問我會不會擔心,我對他說,如果他了解那些向財務公司借二按,甚至借錢買樓的人心態,他就不會擔心。

  根據資料顯示,每一個工作日大約有100宗二按,全年計數超過二萬宗,可以說已經到達泛濫地埗,若果政府再唔正視,樓市崩潰必定從二按這個缺口開始,問題是,那些借二按的人,他們早有物業,當中很多都受過高深教育,有相當知識,明知借二按是一條不歸路,又點會借。我講大家都或者不會相信,這都是「袋住先」惹的禍,不過,是「借住先」。

  現在,在香港做業主,只得表面風光,其實為了每月供款,不少業主是財政緊拙,捉襟見肘,在以往,他們在完成幾年供款之後,便向銀行加按,申請一批貸款,銀行在評論過按揭物業價值之後,大多數會批核,至於那人的收入是否能夠應付每月還款,反而不大關心,因為,在加按之後,那人就算收入不足,但所借得的款項都可以支持每月還款,但在銀行收緊信貸之後,沒有商業需要的業主已經很難將物業加按,但面對每月供款的沉重壓力,一於採取林鄭策略,不過是「借住先」而非「袋住先」,那些業主認為,當銀行放寬按揭,他們便會向銀行借錢還給財務公司,誰不知,銀行越收越緊,他們不但不能夠還款給財務公司,由於要支付銀行的每月供款及財務公司利息,甚至個人使費,唯有越借越多,那些三,四按就是在這種情況出現,最後冇事?當然唔會,最後,那些三,四按物業都會變成銀主盤,當銀主盤達到某一個數量時,那些銀主就必然劈價將物業出售,到那時候,樓價又怎能不跌,這是一個很簡單道理,點解咁多人唔明白。

 
 
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1. Shing Gor 2015-02-22 08:51:03
I believe the property market already reached the peak. However, I don't believe the drop is due to the second charge or third charge of the property. The turning around must be due to the hard landing of china
2. 大寶二寶 2015-02-22 08:55:44
博士之前講謂细價楼會爆煲,依家是否連大價樓都爆埋?
3. 直至到地球毀滅,在香港,長期持有物業的回報仍遠勝股票 2015-02-22 11:14:35
4. 80s 2015-02-22 11:30:52
As I am not a property owner, of coz I am happy to see some downward adjustment on property price. 

But I am a bit curious...according to Dr. Tong, if my understanding is correct, two groups of people are facing financial difficulties now, 
i) one group is those who did not have enough downpayment so they borrow 70% of property price from bank and the remaining 10% from money lender. 

ii) the second group is those who did not need to borrow $ from money lender in the beginning but then they think that the monthly mortgage payment is quite high so they go to money lender to borrow money. 

To me, it seems that the number of these two groups of people is minimal because they just cant afford the high interest rate charged by money lender and the end result is foreclosure as predicted by Dr. Tong.  

However, "根據資料顯示,每一個工作日大約有100宗二按,全年計數超過二萬宗". Just wonder whether these cases are accumulating or they would just repay by the borrowers in a few months as they just have some emergency need for money and they all know that if they cant repay the money in a few months, they would lose their properties. I just dont think HK people are that stupid (though i really want to see some adjustment on property market). 

Btw, thanks Dr. Tong for posting commentary on property market even during CNY! The first thing i do everyday is to go to this website to check out his blog! 



5. 引刀一快 2015-02-22 14:56:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmFHM0iijUM

9分鐘開始睇,劉德華對樓市下跌心態嘅最佳闡釋。
6. 蜕变中嘅懒人 2015-02-22 19:16:53
感覺愈來愈強烈,若樓市當真爆煲,首先衝出缺口嘅好有可能係大價樓、甚至豪宅銀主盤,反而中、細價樓會係被拖後腿嘅角色,但目前真的未嗅到樓市大跌焦味,反而美國加唔到息又陰陰濕濕嚟個变種QE4,頂住各國嘅QE同減息又貶值,咁就恭喜發財,中國好、香港好、大家好。
7. 引刀一快 2015-02-22 21:10:29
講真,真係唔知美國嘅路素。
8. 財仔何來那麼多本金借出去? 2015-02-22 21:26:41

Dr. Tong must enlighten us where could those small finance companies get their money to lend while they could not obtain new credit from banks by sub-mortgage of their 2nd 3rd or 4th mortgages as alleged by Dr. Tong.

If as alleged by Dr. Tong there are really 20,000 cases of 3rd or 4th mortgages per annum, it is logical to think this figure of 20,000 cases only involve the same 3000 or 4000 properties and property owners as they need to shift from one finance company to another finance company within months.

I do respect Dr. Tong but i expect he will not become Mr. Shum Big See soon. 

9. 打工仔 Andy 2015-02-22 21:37:43
懶人兄 引刀兄

損人利己既事, 美國佬最喜歡! 
10. No bubble then no collapse 2015-02-22 21:43:01
Within the last 12 months the hk property market prices have climbed slowly for a 10% gain and volume was still low. There is no bubble how can it fall. Particularly, small size or small capital properties has a yield of 3.5% per annum in general while interest rates will remain low for at least 5 to 10 years, any retracement would be a buying opportunity.
11. To 4/F 2015-02-22 21:45:50
博士的理論是,每一個工作日大約有100宗二按,全年計數超過二萬宗十年後有超過廿萬宗,五十年後超過一百萬宗,五百年後超過一千萬宗.................
12. 蜕变中嘅懒人 2015-02-22 22:03:48
TO 9樓 打工仔兄

懒人以有限公司經濟常識推論,覺得現在嘅經濟理論直頭可以用盲拳打死老師傅,引經據典同靠估或馬騮擲飛鏢機率差唔多,QE傳統概念會帶來通漲,但多年结果證明係帶來通缩,歐盟治通缩又係用傳统QE、貶值同減息希望引致通漲,但如果繼續通缩就不如以毒攻毒,反傳統反其道而行之,實行加息同減QE及利用貨幣升值去達成通漲效果,美國佬唔會咁毒咁玩法啩?

美國佬我保你大嘞!
13. 蜕变中嘅懒人 2015-02-22 22:03:48
TO 9樓 打工仔兄

懒人以有限公司經濟常識推論,覺得現在嘅經濟理論直頭可以用盲拳打死老師傅,引經據典同靠估或馬騮擲飛鏢機率差唔多,QE傳統概念會帶來通漲,但多年结果證明係帶來通缩,歐盟治通缩又係用傳统QE、貶值同減息希望引致通漲,但如果繼續通缩就不如以毒攻毒,反傳統反其道而行之,實行加息同減QE及利用貨幣升值去達成通漲效果,美國佬唔會咁毒咁玩法啩?

美國佬我保你大嘞!
14. 地主會 to 4/F 2015-02-22 22:04:22
以博士嘅logic,咁地產佬嘅銷售數字咪可以......

新地: 我地02年珀麗灣1出1800伙,咁一年就可以出60幾萬伙,我地發達囉!

長實: 我地08年日出康城首都1出2000伙,咁一年就可以出70幾萬伙,我地仲發達啦!

15. 打工仔 Andy 2015-02-22 22:53:04
懶人兄
現在財資時局亂糟糟! 各國自救只會睇自己條數, 真係好難講, 大家要帶好安全帶至得! 
16. 打工仔 Andy 2015-02-22 22:54:24
懶人兄
現在財資時局亂糟糟! 各國自救只會睇自己條數, 真係好難講, 大家要帶好安全帶至得! 
17. 打工仔 Andy 2015-02-22 22:59:04
18. 打工仔 Andy 2015-02-22 23:01:19
懶人兄, 引刀兄

內地書店有售, 有機會買來睇下, 講好多過住全世界的經濟故事, 仲有隻DVD跟.
19. 蜕变中嘅懒人 2015-02-22 23:40:12
打工仔兄

年初六又再返大陸4日遊,睇吓書店有無開門,買本刨吓,不過懒人用嚟催眠效果一定唔錯,懒人可能老咗懶睇書,唉,單獨一個難字。
20. 蜕变中嘅懒人 2015-02-22 23:40:12
打工仔兄

年初六又再返大陸4日遊,睇吓書店有無開門,買本刨吓,不過懒人用嚟催眠效果一定唔錯,懒人可能老咗懶睇書,唉,單獨一個難字。
21. 引刀一快 2015-02-23 05:41:53
打工仔兄、懶人兄

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22. 打工仔 Andy 2015-02-23 19:30:53
懶人兄
有隻DVD跟, 製作十分好不用睇書, 哈哈哈! 
23. 蜕变中嘅懒人 2015-02-23 20:16:46
打工仔兄

隻DVD旁白係廣東話?係就無得顶,不過明日返大陸到書局揾吓,無就淘寶訂都得。
24. 打工仔 Andy 2015-02-23 20:56:25
懶人兄

我幾個月前在深圳書城買到, 是普通話, 人仔45元好正! 你睇下有冇出第二季.